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This is a long article but fascinating for sure. Some of you will find it “Off the wall” but in real life, truth eludes us unless we look for it. I am not connected enough to vouch for all of this but I can indeed say I know some of it is true. Read and see how it sets with you and compare it to the world events going on….
Benjamin Fulford Interview by David Wilcock:
I am currently away from computer, but felt this needed posting now. I’ll have no photos from the David article, but here is the direct link.
Now there is so much history here, that yes it is a long one. But please read with anticipation of great news.
Now, at this moment, I’ve been trying to listen to the mp3, and it has failed to load on my iPhone. So when I have the chance I will download it and make a smaller size version.
BTW I’m at Peachs Corner Cafe in Aspen CO. great place for doing this.
I’ll likely have more to say later. Aloha from Aspen… All I can say is, “SNOW!!! I love it!!!”
CONFIRMED: The Trillion-Dollar Lawsuit That Could End Financial Tyranny
Written by David Wilcock
It could be the biggest, most explosive story in modern history. We are just starting to put the pieces together and understand what is going on in the occult financial geopolitical scene, and how a 117-nation alliance is working to free the Earth from financial tyranny.
[UPDATE, NEXT MORNING: On the same day this article came out, Benjamin Fulford was allegedly detained in a hotel against his will by a “CIA-type group”… and his life may be in danger.
This caused him to miss his appearance on a TV show he was scheduled to be on. The videos are at the end. This could be serious. We pray for Ben’s well-being and encourage you to help spread the word. Publicity is protection!]
IT MAY BE THE BEST THING THAT’S EVER HAPPENED TO US
As I write these words, the average person is coming face-to-face with disturbing, if not dire news.
Not only could the disastrous financial debacle of 2008 be about to repeat itself, it may even be a lot worse this time.
As of November 28, 2011, media outlets announced that we could be as little as ten days away from a complete collapse of the Euro — and with it, much of the rest of the world’s economies could be pulled down as well.
Yet another grandiose “bailout” maneuver was used to buy some time — but this has done little to address the gnawing unease in the public, particularly as the saber-rattling in the Middle East is again reaching a fever pitch.
This, at least, is the mainstream media’s perspective on what is going on — and thankfully, it is completely baseless.
In classic Orwellian terms — such as “War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength” — the mainstream media’s “Global Financial Collapse” cry of doom may very well be the best thing that’s ever happened to us.
At least in any known, recorded history.
A VERY MYSTERIOUS, VERY QUIET AND VERY LARGE-SCALE FINANCIAL SCANDAL
You are about to dive into a story that, for quite some time now, has been nothing but a great-sounding idea — a wonderful “what if.” Almost nothing of this story could be found in the mainstream media.
However, the bizarre origin of the story did briefly find its way into FOX’s Glenn Beck show in 2009.
I highly recommend you watch this first, as it will draw you directly into the mystery — which flickered for the briefest moment in mainstream media, only to disappear into shuddering silence:
Notice that Beck says FOX contacted the Treasury Department about this case, and received an official blow-off letter in response — basically saying they had “no comment” on this 134 billion dollars in US bonds, seized at the Italian border, as it was “evidence in an ongoing investigation.”
Beck then goes on to put up the numbers of which countries hold the largest numbers of US bonds. In order, they are China at 763.5 billion, Japan at 685.9 billion, the United Kingdom at 152.8 billion, Russia at 137.0 billion and Brazil at 126.0 billion.
Based on the public, unclassified numbers, 134.5 billion dollars in US bonds could only have been produced by Russia, the UK, Japan or China… no one else. The amount of money is so huge that if Russia produced it, they would only have 2.5 billion dollars in US bonds left over!
Joe Wiesenthal, the editor of BusinessInsider.com, said that whether this was a government dumping its bonds or a counterfeit operation, it was “gigantic” in scope and “unlike anything we’ve ever seen — not just in size but also in sophistication.”
According to Wiesenthal, in order to counterfeit these bonds, “it would be the kind of technology you would expect only a government to have.” Wiesenthal also believes the 1934 issuance date on the bonds suggests they may be elaborate forgeries.
OTHER LINKS TO COVERAGE OF THE ORIGINAL SCANDAL
Once you know what you are looking for, you can do some digging and find all the most significant articles published online about this strange story when it first broke in June, 2009.
Here is the original Bloomberg article on the scandal:
Here is a Daily Kos summary of links describing what may have happened:
Here is an Asia Times article on the issue, which has a lot more detail:http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15456&size=A
In these two articles, “The Underground Investor” analyzed the evidence and clearly established how strange this whole story really was:
THE LAWSUIT IS NOW A REALITY FOR ALL TO SEE
Ever since this bizarre event happened, the only follow-up to the story has been in the form of an elaborate amount of ‘insider’ information leaked by Benjamin Fulford — the former Asia-Pacific bureau chief for Forbes Magazine — on a week-by-week basis.
Finally, the lawsuit at the epicenter of this investigation has now become a tangible reality — validating everything Fulford has been saying about this mysterious case since it originally started.
Looming storm clouds threatened to demolish Fulford’s credibility in a single crash of lightning as the all-important date of November 15th, 2011 came and went — with nothing to show for it — after years of fanfare and buildup on his websites.
However, on November 23, 2011, the clouds parted. A vast, 111-page legal complaint was filed in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York. This complaint is now a provable matter of public record… as you are about to see.
I have since discovered hundreds of pages of intricate, complex material to read, firsthand eyewitnesses to interview, and official documents to scrutinize. There is no lack of “homework” to be done for those who are interested.
GO LOOK FOR YOURSELF
Here is the search window that opens up when you go to pacer.gov and register as a user for eight cents a page. This website is a public service that allows you to search for any and all legal cases that have been filed in America:
Once you’ve set up your user account, type in “Keenan, Neil” under “Party Name”, and you will then see this:
Notice the fifth item down on the list… 2011-cv-8500, filed on November 23, 2011. That’s the one. You can then click into it from there, and one of the screens you will pull up is the following:
Did you catch that list of defendants?
If the amount of money being sued for isn’t stunning enough, that list of defendants should attract a great deal of attention — for it includes the Italian Republic, the Italian Financial Police, Italy’s Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, the World Economic Forum, Ban Ki-Moon (the head of the UN), and the United Nations itself.
What the hell is going on here?
If you don’t want creepy government spies watching you, and you don’t want to pay eight cents a page, here’s the entire PDF file as it appears once you download it off the PACER website — parked locally here at our website, Divine Cosmos:
MAINSTREAM MEDIA PICKED UP THE STORY AS OF DECEMBER 5, 2011
Dan McCue started asking the same questions you may now be thinking about… and as a result, he was the first mainstream journalist to cover this story in Courthouse News Service, a nationwide news service for lawyers and the news media.
McCue isn’t necessarily convinced — the article is entitled “Bizarre Claim for $1 Trillion” — but given that this is a real case, he is certainly interested enough to write about it.
THE FIRST MAINSTREAM ARTICLE TO EXPLORE THIS STUNNING CASE
Here’s an overview of what McCue wrote:
MANHATTAN (CN) – An American expatriate in Bulgaria claims the United Nations, the World Economic Forum, the Office of International Treasury Control and the Italian government conspired with a host of others to steal more than $1.1 trillion in financial instruments intended to support humanitarian purposes.
The 111-page federal complaint involves a range of entities common to conspiracy theorists, including the Vatican Illuminati, the Masons, the “Trilateral Trillenium Tripartite Gold Commission,” and the U.S. Federal Reserve.
Plaintiff Neil Keenan claims he was entrusted in 2009 with the financial instruments — which included U.S. Federal Reserve notes worth $124.5 billion, two Japanese government bonds with a combined face value of $19 billion, and one U.S. “Kennedy” bond with a face value of $1 billion — by an entity called the Dragon Family, which is a group of several wealthy and secretive Asian families.
“The Dragon family abstains from public view and knowledge, but, upon information and belief, acts for the good and better benefit of the world in constant coordination with higher levels of global financial organizations, in particular, the Federal Reserve System,” Keenan claims.
“During the course of its existence over the last century, the Dragon family has accumulated great wealth by having provided the Federal Reserve Bank and the United States Government with asset assignments of gold and silver via certain accounts held in Switzerland, for which it has received consideration in the form of a variety of Notes, Bonds and Certificates such as those described … that are an obligation of the Federal Reserve System.”
Keenan says that with accrued interest the instruments are now worth more than $1 trillion. He says the family designated him as its principal in an effort to select certain registered and authorized Private Placement Investment Programs (PPPs) for the benefit of unspecified global humanitarian efforts.
In his remarkable complaint, Keenan claims that the U.S. government [received] enormous amounts of money — delivered in gold and other precious metals — from the Dragon Family many years ago, and that the money was placed into the Federal Reserve System for the benefit and underwriting support of the dollar, “which was to become and currently remains the global reserve currency”….
The complaint alleges a complicated history with many moving parts and scores of internationally known and unknown characters, the sum of which is that Keenan claims he was entrusted with billions of dollars in bonds by the Dragon Family….
[These instruments were then stolen as two Japanese agents attempted to cross the border from Italy into Switzerland with them, contained in the suitcase you see in the image at the top of this article.]
[Keenan] claims that as the conspiracy continued to unfold, various high level officials repeatedly offered him a bribe of $100 million to “release” the instruments without disclosing their theft to the Dragon family, and to allow the instruments to be converted to a so-called UN “Sovereign Program” wholly under the auspices, protection and umbrella of the sovereign immunity enjoyed by the defendants.
Other defendants include UN General Secretary Ban Ki-Moon, Former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, Giancarlo Bruno, who is identified as head of the banking industry for the World Economic Forum, Italy’s ambassador to the UN Cesare Maria Ragaflini, Ray C. Dam, president of the Office of International Treasury Control, and David A. Sale, the deputy chief of the council for the cabinet of the OITC.
Keenan seeks the return of the stolen instruments, punitive damages and court costs on multiple claims of fraud, breach of contract and violation of international law.
He is represented by William H. Mulligan Jr., with Bleakley, Platt & Schmidt of White Plains, N.Y.
Interested? I encourage you to visit Courthouse News Service, as McCue does a great job of summarizing the rest of the case. This is just an overview.
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME…
Courthouse News Service didn’t quite have the stomach to quote one of the most interesting paragraphs in the entire complaint… but I do. This is where the whole story really started taking shape for me:
Each of these currencies, such as the DFFI [Dragon Family Financial Instruments] involved in this action, was and remains duly registered within the Federal Reserve System — and are directly verifiable by the Federal Reserve through its efficient verification system and screening process.
Thousands of trillions of dollars? You have GOT to be kidding me! As soon as I read that, I had to know more… because I had enough information to be convinced that this was not a spurious lawsuit. I immediately lined up an interview with Fulford to clear this up.
The bottom line is that the Dragon Family intended for these bonds to be stolen. They represented only a small percentage of the overall asset base… all of which is clandestinely registered within the Federal Reserve and the Bank of International Settlements!
Fulford gave an introduction to the story in this interview — and I then found out much, much more as time went on.
This was an elaborate sting operation that has brought us to where we are today — where a vast international alliance of 117 countries now has a legal way to end the financial tyranny of the Old World Order.
A STAGGERING AMOUNT OF INFORMATION
I have been working solidly on this case, every day, for over three weeks now — which in my current life seems like an eternity, given all the other balls I’m juggling at the same time.
The amount of information to assimilate and correlate, and the complexity of fitting the pieces all together, is staggering.
I have now been in extensive contact with Neil Keenan, the principal plaintiff in this case, as well as Keith Scott, who is also mentioned in the complaint. Scott is an expert in this utterly secretive world of trading between central banks — and is well aware of the vast wealth underwriting them, all held in the strictest secrecy.
Keenan has never worked for any government or clandestine agency. He is a businessman who ultimately became acquainted with the Dragon Family — the former ruling party of China, prior to the arrival of Communism — and gained their trust.
I have now personally surveyed over 300 different photographs and dozens of separate documents Keenan sent me, related to this case — including the now-infamous Book of Maklumat. They are extremely complex — and extremely compelling. This all appeared after I conducted the interview with Fulford you are about to hear… and read.
This whole story is true. Devastatingly true.
It is the single biggest real problem the Powers that Were have ever had. That also means it’s extremely good news for everyone else.
LOTS OF VALIDATION
Less than 15 minutes later, Keenan sent me dozens of pictures that precisely matched the description I had just given him. I was absolutely stunned. There is no possible way he could have faked something like that within fifteen minutes.
It is not yet clear whether I will release any of these images. The last thing I would want to do is to damage this case in any way, and it may also violate international laws — giving the loyal opposition an easy way to attack me.
However, we do have at least one image that is safe to share. Here, again, is the photo released by the Italian media after these bonds were first seized:
Let’s not waste any more time. Here’s the link to download the 98-meg, high-quality MP3 file of this stunning, 98-minute interview… followed by the transcript, which I have loaded up with links you can check out yourself: http://divinecosmos.com/podcasts/Wilcock_Fulford_2011-12-02.mp3
DW: Hello. This is David Wilcock and I’m here with Benjamin Fulford. This is another Divine Cosmos audio blog.
I’m interviewing Benjamin Fulford today, which in my time here in Los Angeles, California would be November 28th, 2011, a Monday – for Ben it’s already a Tuesday.
The reason why we’re doing this interview is Ben has, for a very long time now, been talking about a counter-insurgency against what I lovingly call the Old World Order, which is a mélange of international characters.
[This counter-insurgency] started out as an Asian secret society.
BENJAMIN FULFORD’S BONAFIDES
DW: For those of you who don’t already know, I’d like to establish some of [Fulford’s] bonafides so it doesn’t sound like he’s tooting his own horn here.
Ben was the Asia-Pacific bureau chief for Forbes magazine. He has a long history of professional, credentialed academic journalism.
As you can find out from many other interviews he’s done, some of which are on my site, he got involved into a world of intrigue when he started to trace where the money was going from the Japanese economy.
He realized the economic stimulus that could be generated for the world was not being used for anything that was positive – and it seemed like a lot of money was disappearing.
That investigative trail led to him getting death threats and getting drawn into an Asian secret society as a counterbalance against the Old World Order guys.
SELLING HIS SOUL
DW: [The Old World Order] also tried to silence him and bribe him by offering him – I forget, Ben, was it an ambassadorship they wanted to offer you, or something like that?
BF: They offered me at one point the job of Finance Minister of Japan.
DW: Finance minister of Japan. Right.
BF: They also, believe it or not, offered me General Electric and General Motors.
DW: Like you would be the CEO, or something?
BF: Yeah, and I guess the chief shareholder.
The problem, of course, is I had to go along with their plan to kill four billion people. It’s the classic “sell your soul to the devil” situation.
DW: Right. They just need to lighten the load and get rid of some surplus. That’s how they like to talk about it.
BF: Well, they want to save the environment and get rid of the “useless eaters”.
FULFORD DIDN’T EMERGE UNTIL HE HAD PROTECTION
DW: So look, man, I’ve been on the Internet since 1996. I’ve had my own public presence since 1998. I watched you ever since you came out.
I noticed right off the bat – I believe you emerged in 2007 – was that correct, something like that?
BF: Yeah, it must have been around that time. I had been researching a lot of stuff before then, but I didn’t feel it was safe to go out in public because I knew they would kill me.
It wasn’t until I got protection that I was able to come out and start saying this stuff.
MORE THAN THIRTY BOOKS AND OVER A MILLION COPIES SOLD
DW: And it is true that within Japan, you are a bestselling author. How many books do you have in print and how many units have you sold?
BF: I don’t know. More than 30 books, and I don’t know, maybe a million in all. I haven’t kept track.
DW: 30 titles is very substantial.
You are fully bilingual. Nobody can challenge that. There are plenty of videos they can watch of you talking fluently in Japanese.
WHY WOULD YOU BE CHOSEN FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS?
DW: I have seen endless iterations of every type of hate comment that someone would lob at you.
The most frequent one is they just can’t wrap their head around the story. They think it’s too implausible that these Asian secret societies would contact you.
I see that you are bilingual, and you are a credible financial journalist who then became a best-selling author. You are quite renowned for these, as you’re saying, 30 books you have in Japan.
There’s no other gaijin – that’s the word they use for foreigner – there’s no other gaijin in Japan, no other white guy out there that I’m aware of who is doing what you’ve done.
So who else would they have chosen for something like this – to try to bridge over to the Western world?
FULFORD COULD GET AWAY WITH MORE EDGY JOURNALISM
BF: Sure, look. What you have to realize is that there are a couple of reasons why I fell into this particular niche.
One is that I wrote a lot of stuff that if I had been a Japanese journalist, I would have been killed for.
DW: Oh really?
BF: But because I was a foreigner working for Forbes, I was off-limits.
DW: This is stuff that would have rattled the chains of the government, or stuff that would have insulted the Emperor? What are we talking here?
THE SECRET COLONIAL GOVERNMENT RULING JAPAN
BF: I’m talking in essence about the secret colonial government here.
DW: Right. [DW: Later in the interview, Fulford said Japan had been secretly run by the Rothschilds – since the Meiji Restoration of 1868.]
BF: They’ve been using a network of North Koreans and gangsters and bribed Japanese. They’ve been using bribery and murder to make this country into a colony that is only an independent country on the surface.
DW: Now I want to get back to that, but briefly…
BF: [crosstalk] OK, but let me just tell you how I got involved, in a really short summary.
WROTE BOOKS EXPOSING 9/11, BEGINNING IN 2006
BF: I basically started writing books in Japanese…
DW: And this was what year, approximately?
BF: I guess the ones that caused troubles came out around 2006. I was basically saying the 9/11 stuff that was uncovered by many researchers in the West.
DW: So this was before you ever appeared on Rense or anything in the West?
EXPOSING ‘SARS’ AS A BIO-WEAPON TARGETING ASIANS
BF: And then I had a book out in Japanese that pointed out that SARS was a bio-weapon that was designed to kill non-Caucasian people.
DW: For those who don’t remember, SARS was the bird flu.
BF: I quoted from the documents written by the Neocons, like the Project for a New American Century.
The documents pointed out very clearly that there was a group of Western elitsts that were planning on starting World War III and reducing the world’s population.
HE RECOMMENDED THEY CUT OFF THE MONEY
BF: [I also argued that] Asians could stop this by cutting off their money – because they required Japanese and Chinese money to finance this insane project.
An order came out in the Japanese underworld to have me killed.
DW: That’s understandable, if you start putting your finger in [places it doesn’t belong….]
PROTECTION WAS OFFERED – AND HE LEARNED ABOUT FREEMASONS
BF: The South Korean secret police then told the Chinese – and the Chinese sent a secret society to offer me protection.
That’s how I became involved in a world I never even knew existed until that time.
If you talked to me before that about Freemasons, you would have gotten a nervous giggle and a shrug, and that’s about it.
DW: It’s a funny handshake, and they give money to charity, and so on. Right.
“THE CHINESE” HAD EAVESDROPPED ON BOHEMIAN GROVE
BF: The other thing is the Chinese themselves had eavesdropped on one of the conferences at the Bohemian Grove.
They were fully aware of this plan to start World War III, and they were trying to stop it.
When they realized I was being put on a hit list for trying to warn them of something they already knew about, that’s how I got involved.
WHO DO YOU MEAN BY “THE CHINESE,” EXACTLY?
DW: OK, one thing. As I’m talking to you I’m also responding to the fact that when we’ve published articles in the past, we get two or three hundred written comments on them.
I’m able to read what everybody says and the feedback they have. I’m trying to speak not just for myself, but also for the collective.
One of the stumbling blocks I think we’ve had in other interviews that people don’t get clear on is when you say “the Chinese,” people naturally think of this repressive government.
It’s burning people’s houses down in Tibet. It is restricting YouTube. It is restricting freedom. It won’t let people march on Tianmen Square.
It is basically just this human-rights-crushing monster.
IT IS AN ASIAN SECRET SOCIETY
BF: OK. I guess I made a mistake when I said Chinese.
BF: I should have said Asia. This transcends China. It involves Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand, Japan, Taiwan and Korea.
In fact, it goes right to the group of non-aligned nations – a 77-nation group that included places like Yugoslavia.
It was wrong of me to call it the Chinese. It is an Asian secret society, not a Chinese secret society.
WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CHINA AND THIS SOCIETY?
DW: OK. What would be the relationship between this Asian secret society and the current Communist government of China?
BF: Believe it or not, the old royal families of Asia decided that communism would be the best way to modernize China.
Behind and above the communist government of China and the government of Taiwan, you’ll find an old group of families whose connections go way beyond temporary political structures.
THE DRAGON FAMILY
DW: Now correct me if I’m wrong, but China was named after emperor Qin, who was of the Dragon Family. That was the first dynasty of China, right?
DW: So these people… he’s the one who built the Terra Cotta Soldiers, where he took every soldier and every horse in his army and built a stone sculpture out of them.
There’s all sorts of interesting facts about how this Dragon family showed up. They basically erased all the history from China before then, which is now being rebuilt by certain scholars.
These Asian secret societies appear to be dynastic. They’ve largely been behind the scenes. They’ve amassed large amounts of wealth.
That’s part of what we’re into now. That’s what we’re talking about. Right?
COMPETING SECRET SOCIETIES, EAST AND WEST
BF: You’ve got to remember that there are several different competing groups.
You have essentially a similar thing in Asia as in the West. You have secret societies that are connected to ancient dynastic bloodlines.
In the West that would be the Rothschilds, the British royal families, the Freemasons and the P2 Lodge.
In Asia, it would be the Dragon Families, I would guess. This would be all the various dynastic families and clan groupings based on family ties.
But, in the West you had a different group. It is confusing, because there are several groups that call themselves Illuminati.
SOME GROUPS OPPOSED TO BLOODLINE RULE
There is a group that has contacted me and they’ve proven to me they are connected to various agencies as well as international drug-smuggling rings.
They claim they started the French, American and Russian revolutions, and that they are opposed to bloodline rule.
[DW: I have already stated to Ben that this sounds like a rival faction of the same people trying to reinvent themselves. He said he is not joining them or supporting them – merely listening to what they have to say.]
In the same way, the Asians have a secret society that is also based on meritocracy. They are also opposed to bloodline rule.
The Chinese triads, the Japanese yakuza groups and various other secret groups in Asia have strict rules against nepotism.
The son of a gang boss could never take over his father’s gang.
These are linked to martial arts societies and also chambers of commerce.
There’s no clear line between chambers of commerce and outlaw gangsters being chased by police. It’s a gray zone. Light gray and dark gray, you know?
Both in the West and in the East, you have meritocractic secret societies and bloodline secret societies. OK?
ARE THE ASIAN SECRET SOCIETIES PRACTICING EVIL?
DW: Could you just briefly enunciate for us… A lot of people have PTSD around hearing things like Illuminati.
As soon as you say stuff like that, the paranoia kicks in, and the fear and the anxiety kicks in.
So when you say that these are dynastic bloodline families in Asia – that these are secret societies – are they sacrificing babies? Are they drinking people’s blood? Are they doing satanic rituals?
[DW: This was a question I already knew the answer to, and just wanted him to clarify. He has repeatedly stated the Asian secret societies are vigorously opposed to these occult practices, and want to help create a better world.]
What are we talking about here in terms of: who are these people, what do they think, what’s their philosophy, what do they want?
Do they want to take over the planet? Are they fighting against the Illuminati to control the planet?
What is their agenda?
THEY WANT A FAIRER SYSTEM, NOT DOMINATED BY THE WEST
BF: They think that the control of the future of the planet should no longer be controlled by a small Western elite.
They would rather have it fall under the control of the people of the planet.
There is a group, of course, of chauvinistic people who say China should rule the world – in China.
But, the general consensus in Asia as a whole is it should be equal for all the people in the world – not just for a Chinese or a Khazarian-controlled family business that runs the planet.
What they say publicly, I think, is really what they expect for now – which is a multi-polar world, not one controlled by a single group.
HOW DID YOU GET ALL THIS INFORMATION – AND FROM WHO?
DW: OK. Another question, which I think might help to allay the skeptics. There’s a lot of them, and they’re very nasty.
Is it possible that all of the stuff that you just told me about these Chinese secret societies is the result of you meeting one or two guys, and them telling you these elaborate stories?
You call the guy on the phone every other day and he gives you new information, and that’s it.
FULFORD MET MANY OF THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN ASIA